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    February 16, 2007

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    sara sue

    How sad! I will miss reading her blog. You're absolutely right, Nils, it's like the bad guys won.

    wordgirl

    Thank you for saying this, Nils. There's not a sign of her blog anywhere...save for that last goodbye letter. You're right, of course. These people often strike out while maintaining the luxury of anonymity. The blogger in question feels obligated to take the high road and just back away. To fight back is to encourage judgement based on the theory that "bloggers can't take criticism and only love the kind of comments that show adoration or total agreement". What Dooce did was, in my opinion, an appropriate way to handle someone like Matt Jackson. He wanted to take a stab at her and he didn't want judgement from others. She risked a lot by opening up the forum to include everyone by flushing his words out into the open and inviting anyone and everyone to either agree with Matt's assertions or...allow him to face a firing squad of her peers.

    I'm sorry Amanda's gone, too. In a world of popular bloggers, many of whom cannot or will not acknowledge a comment or e-mail that doesn't come from someone equally lauded, Amanda was an accessible person. And now she's gone.

    Squirl

    There should be a specific level of hell for trolls.

    Bucky Four-Eyes

    I will never understand people's need to piss on somebody else's parade. Same fuckers would kick puppies, too, if they didn't think anyone would see.

    Amanda, your blog Zen-ness will be missed by your blog bruthas and sistahs.

    Ortizzle

    As I commented over at The Lair of the Platypus, I never got to know her blog. And I find it so sad that now I never will, considering all the wonderful things people have said about her.

    You said it well, Nils. It's a shame that blog terrorists have the power to ruin the best part of the Internet for people who are just minding their own business and commit no sin worse than entertaining and amusing others.

    CircusKelli

    It surely sucks when people gotta be all pissy and shitty and all up in other people's business about how they think they should run their lives.

    whfropera

    I was just talking about this with a group of people yesterday - all about how we don't interact face to face as much anymore, and how it leads to a LOT of miscommunication.
    This is one of the downsides of the Internet - anonymous people, or people hiding behind a facade, can piss on the parade, injuring people they have never met, just for the sheer joy of it. One of the reasons why I have a blog that has almost no personal information on it. If you hate on opera, so be it. More for the rest of us.
    :)

    Susie

    Well. Tell us how you REALLY feel. I don't know what to say. It's bewildering to me. I didn't read Amanda B. regularly, but I did enjoy her posts very much when I did, and I loved to hear her sing. I read enough to know that she put out GOOD; and it is always bewildering and disconcerting when GOOD somehow provokes evil. It is a sad day indeed, when someone who put goodness out into the world is silenced. I am sure she'll express herself in other ways. She has too much to offer, not to.
    And I must say, your whole "I burped today" description of some popular blogs had me laughing out loud. Now, if you'll excuse me, my nose is running and I'm going to go post a little something about that . . .

    platypus

    Hear, hear. I'm gutted too. It's so sad when anyone is made to feel that they can't continue to express themselves in a blog. I only hope that, like Mama Tulip, she decides to come back one day when she's feeling stronger.

    Gorilla Bananas

    I just delete unfunny comments that I don't like. Trolls get frustrated when their comments keep on getting deleted. Not many of them want to mess with a gorilla anyway.

    Laura

    Well that is just plain sad. I can't help wondering why she didn't delete the hateful comments, block the emails and so on? Were the things she was saying really so bad that it brought in more trolls than friends? I didn't read her blog so I'm not exactly sure what was going on. But because she signed off, I'll never know. It's really too bad they got the upper hand.

    Your comment about burping had me laughing, but I know that there are some blogs that are set up from chat rooms, and that's possibly why they get so many commenters. 'd rather read a quality written post with 5 comments than a brainless one that has 30 people burping along in unison.

    CircusKelli

    See, now... 30 people burping in unison might be entertaining...

    Bucky Four-Eyes

    All this talk of burping...SOOOOO childish.

    Who's with me on the All-Fart Blog Chorus? Right now, we're working on an updated arrangement of "Blowin' in the Wind."

    twisteduterus

    Amen. I miss her blog too. Seriously.

    Burp.

    Lowa

    I am just glad I won't lose touch with her. We can still e-mail. I am SO thankful for that. That is the thing. As popular as she is, she still took the time to e-mail and keep in touch and make various comments, etc. Which blew me away, honestly. I e-mailed her to tell her I was so sad that she had to go, and she e-mailed me within an hour. HOW SWEET IS THIS WOMAN!?!?

    I have a few faithful readers, like as in about five. None of you guys read my blog. Mainly because it is boring! LOL Nothing about burps or farts, but still, pretty lame. Nils was by a few times about a year ago, which made me feel very honoured. I am not a writer and not very creative, like you all are. My grammar is HORRID and I can't spell correctly sometimes. I yap about my kids, mainly. I don't have time to make my blog how I truly want it, and that is ok. Right now raising my kids is my priority and maybe one day I can be as talented as the people who raise kids and still put out witty, entertaining, thought provoking posts.

    See what I mean?? I ramble. ALL THE TIME. I need an editor! I am trying to say that as unknown as I am, I still feel like Amanda truly cares about me and takes time to keep in touch. That blows me away!

    Thanks for posting this, Nils. And btw, I am so sorry about your MIL:(

    Nils

    Thanks Lowa. And don't assume that no comment means no visit, ya know?

    Lowa

    It's true. Good point. :)

    By the way, with all your puppy goings-on, it finally kicked me into gear and we got ourself one. MAN, is he CUTE! When Amanda got Mokey, I wanted him SO BAD. Our little Brommy is very similar.

    Little does he know, he is getting his nards chopped off next week! Poor little guy, I feel like I am betraying him somehow. Just carrying on as usual, playing and kissing and giving him treats when he does his business outside and then BAM! Suddenly no more testicles. I will have to post about that when it happens.

    Nils Ling

    Gosh, Lowa. Almost sounds like he's getting married.

    William

    I always find it fascinating, and with Amanda I believe it was the case, that it was not only trolls that were taunting her but also fellow bloggers. People with blogs of their own that were taking shots at her.

    Marian

    People seem to have a lot of different ideas about what is rude. There are quite a few who don't know the difference between a counter-argument and a personal attack. And many seem to not only disagree, but to also hate you somehow (this seems especially true if they know nothing about you). There also seems to be a broad range of strategies when it comes to comments. Some bloggers delete if you're politely offering another point of view (a pov that happens to differ from their own). Others put up with the most outrageous garbage. If I had a lot of traffic (I don't) and some of it was mean and/or personal, I think I would delete. On the hand, I don't think nasty e-mails count as terrorism (stalking maybe, but not terrorism).

    marybishop

    I leave my nasty comments on my blog. I am not always being sweet and figure I'm going to piss a few people off, so I don't mind when they rage against me and make personal mean attacks. I am not popular so it doesn't happen very often. Sometimes, the meaner the attack the more you know you must have hit someone's hot button.

    torrie

    It's all about jealousy.

    Cranky Chick

    You have to have a thick skin to blog. And I agree with Torrie... the more trolls you have the more important it is to retain the voice that's obviously making others uncomfortable. Evolution is often the consequence of discomfort.

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